I Certainty Do Not Know "Everything" about Strippits or Any Other Subject!
My Opinions are Based on the Above Experience, and are Simply Offered as 1 of Many Opinions that
You Should Gather & Use, and Combine with Your Own Unique Needs & Situation,
to Form Your Own Opinion, Which is the Only One That Counts!!!
Recommendations & Opinions;
Opinions are for North American Market and Do Not Necessarily hold for other Countries on our Tiny Planet.
I Favor Machines Built with Mechanical Press-Drives, but All Manufactures have gone to Hydraulic-Rams.
If you are Buying a New Machine and Need the Features of a Hydraulic Adjustable-Stroke Ram, Make the Manufacturer Prove That It Really Works, at Advertised Speeds, with Your Tooling & Sheet-Materials.
I Greatly Prefer 30-Ton Punching Force Machines Over Lighter & Cheaper 22 Ton Machines Manufactures often Push. Negotiate a 2 or even 3 Year Parts & Service Warranty, Don't Be Bashful! It's Your Money!!!
I would Chose "Long-Tooling" & "Thick-Turrets" as it is More Accurate and Suitable for Hi-Speed CNC Punching over "Thin-Turret Strippit-Style" Tooling that was Invented 3/4 of a Century ago by Old Wales Strippit Co. for Manually-Operated Single-Station Machines. "Trumpf" Style Tooling and their Rotating Punch-Head Concept as now used by Many Machine Builders is another Good Choice.
Avoid P.C. Controls & Most CNC Control Retrofits, as they Tend to be "Buggy", Poorly Documented, have Parts Availability Problems, and are Hard to Service & Support. Latest Fanuc Controls are a "P.C." with "Windows" Running-Inside and have had some "Problems". Their Hard-Drives are Expensive to replace.
The Strippit Co.
Historically, a Company that has Good Build-Quality of Machines, Good Engineering, Average to Mediocre Field Service, that has Been Hobbled by Poor Marketing & Salesmanship, and During Houdaille / Idex / Strippit Inc. / KKR Years, a Very Self-Enriching & Clueless-Management. Hopefully, LVD will Do Better.
Don't Misunderstand, Strippit Has Many Excellent Servicemen & Support People, and Salesmen. They Also have some (Just like All Manufactures) that are Unskilled, Poorly Trained, Burned-Out, & Worried about The-Next Layoff. Many are Over-Worked & Spread-Too-Thin, as Strippit is Understaffed.
This can Negate Strippit's Good Points and Brings-Down the Whole Organization to Mediocrity.
LVD Strippit Management Doesn't seem to Understand North-American Market. I get Calls from Small Shops and Large Corporations with Press-Brakes & Lasers & Punches, that Complain about "Arrogance of the Belgians" (Their Exact-Words, Not Mine). The Strippit Company is Located in Akron, New York (near Buffalo), Yet Strippit Chairman Jean-Pierre Lefebvre (The Family "L" in LVD) is My Neighbor Here in Union County, North Carolina. It's a Long 700 Mile (1100 Kilometer) Commute to Strippit Factory in Akron, N.Y, but I Guess a Short-One to his Beach House on Bald-Head Island on our North Carolina Coast.
I am also Amazed How I Travel all around the Country, and Talk to Shop-Owner after Shop-Owner, who have Never Even Seen A Strippit Salesman! Strippit's "Distributors" tend to be Order-Takers. I wouldn't use Distributors at All! Strippit should Stick to their Own Professional Factory-Trained Salesmen,
and have them "Beat The Bushes" a Hell of a Lot More, like Amada Salesmen Do.
Phone Technical Support is Poor Because of Lack of Manpower from Many Layoffs of Support & Service Personnel, and Too-Wide Present & Past Product-Lines. When I was "Tech-Support" at Strippit, I built a Library of Manuals on Every Product-Line in my "Cubical". After I Left, CEO Kenny Slawson (Known as "The Tall & Dumb One") said it was "Too-Messy", so this All-Important Support Documentation was Thrown-Out in the Dumpster! Looks over Substance. Personnel & Resources Should be Added to Important Tech-Support Group and Publicly-State what Past-Products Strippit-Is & Is-Not Going to Support.
Strippit Field Repair Service is Very Very Poor in our Close Neighbors in Canada and Mexico,
and is Even Worse or Completely Nonexistent Overseas. Check on Service & Parts Before You Buy!!!
All the Above are Very Correctable Problems, If LVD Strippit Ever Commits to Fixing Them.
Global 20-1215, Global 20-1515, Global 20-1225, Global 20-1525, Global 30-1215, Global 30-1515, Global 30-1225, Global 30-1525, Siena 1212, Siena 1225, Parma 1212, Parma 1225, Delta 1000, Delta 1250, Delta 1500, ST 1212, ST 1225, 1000H/30, 1250H/30, 1500H/30, 1000XP/20, 1250XP/20, 1000MXP/30, 1250MXP/30, Alpha 1012, Alpha 1212, and the Super 750. Plus the "Omega" Systems.
Good Grief, Strippit Has Way Too-Many Punch Machine Models! They Currently (Summer 2007) List 28 CNC Punch Machines! This puts a Huge Burden on Engineering, Manufacturing, Purchasing, Parts
Stock-Room, Documentation, Tech-Phone Support, and the Field-Servicemen.
How can Anyone "Know" & "Support" All These Current (And the Past) Machine Models?
To put it in Context, Amada & Trumpf are Much Larger Companies than LVD Strippit, yet Amada Lists 5 Punches, and Trumpf Lists only 4 Punch Machines. Strippit Needs to Get Rid of these Excess and Redundant Models, and Concentrate their Efforts on Great-Support of Remaining "Core" Models.
New Machines seem to be Well Engineered & Built, and are Fast & Accurate. All have Reliable Fanuc Control & Servo-Drives, which can be Serviced World-Wide by Fanuc & Independent Service Co's. Integration of some Newer Machines & Fanuc Controls is Not the Best. It seems Not Enough Engineering Time was Spent at Strippit to "Get the Bugs Out". This is Probably Caused by the "Too-Many Models" & "Too-Many Laid-Off Engineers" Problem. Problems like Customer's getting "Error Codes" instead of Real-Messages on their CNC Controls, Poor Documentation & Electrical Drawings, and Mechanical & Electrical "Bugs" that are Poorly or Never Fixed. Different Machine were done by Different Engineers, who Didn't Talk to each Other, and so used Different Machine Parts, Incompatible Controls & Software, Different Sensors, Etc. Caused by Poor "Engineering Management". This makes it Difficult for Even the Factory to Support!
Machines are now Hydraulic, some of the Past Hydraulic-Versions had Various Problems, But Newer Versions seem Much Improved. I Prefer 30-Ton Machines with Thick-Turrets & Thick-Tooling.
The Mechanical Press-Drive Versions have been Phased-Out of Production.
Mid 1990's to 2002
Global 20's and Global 30's. Most are Bridge-Frame Machines now, very solid & rigid. Strippit has now used 2 or 3 Generations of Hydraulic-Ram Systems, some have had Problems, I greatly Prefer the Mechanical Press-Drive Versions. Stay with the Fanuc Control Versions. Some Machines had Apple-Mac / DOS / Windows P.C. Computer Controls with Various Software & Servo Drives which are becoming Hard to Support. Avoid the P.C. Controls! All Strippit Upper-Turret Tool-Stations have Hardened-Bushings, a Big Advantage, especially in used Machines, as a damaged Turret Station can be Easily made "Like-New" again. Another Strippit Advantage is that all their Auto-Index Stations are Big 3 1/2 Inch Stations, some competitors have only small station A/I's, which are Much-Less Versatile.
1250H/20 This is 1250/20 Repackaged with a Hydraulic Press-Drive, instead of Mechanical. This was next Stab at Hydraulics, and there have been Reports of Various Problems. Some Blame Control, Some Blame Hydraulics, Some say there is No Problems at all! I don't know, so I report it here Only as "Hear-Say", just be aware of it. Customers that have this Machine with Fanuc-Control Option are seem Happy.
This was also Era of Strippit's Own "Windows P.C. Control", I would Avoid the P.C. Control Versions!
1250/20 and 1250XP/20 Basically, The R-Machines with Mechanical Press-Drives that were repackaged with a Larger Bridge-Frame. Good Machines if they have Fanuc-Control option, most do not.
1000/20 and 1000XP/20 Some Minor Updates and Marketing gives New Names to same old FC1000R Machines. Good Machines & Recommended, if they have Fanuc-Control Option. As "R-Family" of Machines have a Mechanical Press-Drive that does Not have Pressure Oil-Lube System of Past Machines, Grease Press-Drive Often, using a High-Quality (Mobil) Synthetic grease, or Press Bearings Wear-Out.
FC1000S, FC1000SXP, FC1250S, FC1250SXP Machines are some of the Best Strippit Ever Built, and are Highly-Recommended! Very Heavy-Duty C-Frames, Reliable Mechanical Press-Drives with Desirable Wet (Hydraulic) Clutch & Brake Unit, and Most used Fanuc Controls with A.C. Servo Drives.
Fanuc Versions are Recommended! A few Machines were built with Odd-Ball DOS / Windows P.C. & Apple-Mac P.C. Controls, Avoid Them!!! Note That most Strippit 30-Ton Mechanical Press-Drives were Built with a Filtered Oil-Lube System for their Crankshaft, Ram, and Bearings, and these Items Last Forever. However, Amada Mechanical Press-Drives are Greased, and tend to Need a Very Expensive Rebuild and Replacement of their Press-Drive Bearings & Crankshaft Items every few Years.
FC1250M Machines. Strippit's Heavy-Duty Punch Machine, sort of a replacement for Ancient FC1250/45, yet was Rated at only 33 Punching Tons like "S" Machines. Made in Mechanical & Hydraulic Ram Versions, I prefer Mechanical. "M" Machines are Basically "S" Machines with a "Thick-Turret" Option to use Amada Long-Tooling. Plasma-Cutting & Laser-Cutting Options available. Very Good Machines, Recommended!
FC1000R and FC1250R were Updated to become the "XP"s (Extended Performance) Machines. Pretty much Same Machines, only Speeded-Up. Fanuc Versions are Quite Good Machines, but Avoid P.C. Control Versions! Good Machines when new, but now Very Hard to Fix P.C. "Controls" when they break as most "Control" Circuit Boards ("PAC" & "Motion") & Apple MAC Parts are "Not Available"! AVOID!
Mid to Late 1980's
2nd Generation FC1000/3 and FC1000XT Machines are Very Good Machines. Early Versions had Fanuc GN6 Controls with D.C. Servo Drives, and good but Less-Desirable Air Clutch & Brakes. Later Versions had Fanuc OP Controls with A.C. Servo Drives, and Wet Clutch & Brake Units, both of which are more reliable. First Strippits with Auto-Index Stations. Micron Parts for these A/I Stations are No-Longer Available, ask Strippit if Engineering will Design a Retrofit to Newer A/I Versions that Can be supported.
FC1000R. Strippit goes full Circle in Entry-Level Machines. From Building Good HECC80 FC750, Then Junk Di-Acro CAP1000's, then Re-Painted Imported SPM500's & SPM750's, to Finally Designing & Building their Own Machine again, The FC1000 "R" (Rear-Address) Machines. 20-Ton Machines with Mechanical Press-Drive, made with Apple-MAC, Windows P.C., and Fanuc Controls. Fanuc is Reliable and Supportable Control. Strippit is even taking-in old Mac "R" Machines on Trade-Ins, and putting New Fanuc Controls on them, as it has become Very Hard-to-Support Windows P.C. & Apple-MAC / Servo-Drive / Motion Board / System-Software Versions / PAC I/O Board Combinations, Etc, that Strippit used over the years.
Fanuc Versions are OK. Avoid ALL Apple-MAC and Windows-P.C. Control "R" Machines!
FC630R. Same as the FC1000R above, only with a Smaller (25 Inch) Y-Axis, Too-Small to be very useful.
Note! An Update on "R" & "XP" Type Machines Listed above with Apple MAC Controls.
The Company that made "Motion" Circuit Boards that Strippit used Will-Not or Can-Not make them anymore, so they are Just Not Available! Same with "PAC" I/O Circuit Boards, No PAC Boards and No More Obsolete "Commodore" Computer I.C. Chips used to make PAC Boards. Its Also Hard to get Old Mac Computers & Servo Drives & The Correct Software Versions. More On Strippit Controls.
Avoid Buying MAC or Windows PC Control Machine!!! Strippit Will, for about $80,000.00, Cut-Off Your Old Mac PC Control and Retrofit a New Fanuc CNC Control, which Strippit should have used in the First Place!
SPM500 & SPM750 Machines. Small Light-Duty Nisshinbo's Repainted with "Strippit" on them.
Strippit has Abandoned Them! Little or No Parts & Service Support from Strippit!
Not Bad Machines (if you stay within their Size & Tonnage Limitations), But if you can't get Parts & Service,
I would Avoid them. Check on Parts & Service Availability Before you Buy, Not After!
Maybe Mr. Sobocinski at NC MEC (the U.S. Nisshinbo Dealer) can Help us out here? Let Us Know Bob.
Super AG 30/30. These are Single-Station Machines (Manual Super 18/30's, 30/30's, 30/40's) with a little
Japanese Earlix 2KH-700 2-Axis Auto-Gageing CNC Control Bolted-On. The Earlix Company has gone
Out-Of-Business, so there is No-Parts & No-Service Available! Another Strippit Orphan! Avoid Them!
The HECC80 CNC Control Machines. Fairly Simple Machines which are easy to Understand, Operate, and Work-On. No Auto-Index was ever on any HECC80 Machines. Parts and Service are Available.
HECC80 Machines Are Machine Technologies Speciality!
Most HECC80 CNC Control Machines are now Good Inexpensive Entry Machines for small Shops,
and Cheap-Enough to buy an Identical "Spare Machine" if you already have one. All Companies Should have 2 Machines, so that your Business is Not Held Hostage by a Critical Machine being "Down"!!!
FC750 and FC750/2 are Good and Compact 1-Piece Machine. Has 20-Station Turrets, 20-Ton Punch Rating, 30"x 40" Table size, and are Very Easy to Move, Set-Up, Operate, and Repair. FC750's are
Excellent & Inexpensive Entry Machines, and Good replacements for the Junk T-SAF & FC75/30 Machines!
FC1000/2 Same as the 1970's FC1000/1 noted below, only Updated with Newer HECC80 CNC Control.
A 3-Piece Machine (HECC80/1 Control, Table, Frame), 20-Station Turrets, 30-Ton, 38"x 48" Table size.
A very Popular Machine, with 450+ FC1000/1 & FC1000/2 Machines being built.
FC1000/3 Machines was Replacement for FC1000/2 with same 38"x 48" Table-Size & 30 Ton Punch Rating. 1-Piece Machine, which are More Accurate and Very Easy to Install. Machines are Very Fast, have big 33 Station-Turrets, more Features, and Very Easy to Operate HECC80/302 Controls. Note, at about Machine s/n 045, FC1000/3's got New Heavy-Duty Turret Drive (Can Identify by 2 Gearbox Output-Shafts, not 1), and at about s/n 067 FC1000/3's got Improved 3A Servo-Drive, so I Prefer s/n 067+ Machines. At s/n 200, FC1000/3's received many Machine & Control (HECC80/302A) Improvements and were called the "Reliability Machine" In-House at Strippit, and are Very Good Machines. About 260 HECC80 FC1000/3 Machines were made before they Evolved into 2nd Generation GN6 Fanuc-Control Versions.
FC1250/30/1500 have bigger 50" x 60" Tables and are Very Good Machines. Early versions had HECC80/1 Control & 20-Station Turret, later versions had HECC80/306 Control & 33-Station Turret.
Final Versions had Fanuc Controls. Strippit Supports HECC80 Controls but is Not good at it. We Are.
FC1500/45. Heavy-Duty Bridge-Frame Machine that can Punch 5/8" Steel Plate and had Plasma-Cutting. Uses Whitney 28xx style Tooling Only. About 30 Machines were made. There is Little Parts & Service Support by Strippit these days. Most Service Work is now provided by my Associate Keith Coffee. We (Machine Technologies) have Control Electronic Parts, but No Mechanical Machine Parts for this Model. Good Machines, but I Advise Avoid, Unless you Need its Unique Heavy-Duty Punch & Plasma Cutting Capabilities, because of No-Strippit Support & Limited Parts Availability. Buy 2 so you can keep 1 Running.
CAP1000 and CAP1250 Machines. Really a Cheap, Light-Duty, Obsolete Old (1970's) Di-Acro Machine with Strippit Painted-On. Horrible to Work-On. For Instance, you have to remove Clutch & Flywheel,
pull-out 6 Foot-Long Crankshaft out Back of Frame, just to change a Brake O-Ring! Poor Manuals, Little or No Service & Parts Availability, Breaks Ram & Crank Parts if you do any Heavy-Punching. Fitting a 1" Smaller Motor-Pully to Slow-Down Press-Drive Speed will help you some. Avoid CAP Machines!
HPM1000. A Wet-Dream of Strippit Marketing Dept. Now Get This, They took Cheap Table & Control of a Di-Acro CAP1000 Machine, and Jury-Rigged it to Frame of a Strippit FC1000/2 Machine, to make their
El-Cheapo 30-Ton "Houdaille Punch Machine" (HPM). There is No Schematic Drawings, No Service,
No Support, and Strippit has Conveniently Forgotten that they Even Made Them! Avoid At All Costs!
T-SAF30. Strippit took their Great 40-Ton Single-Station Super 30/40 Manual Machine, had a 12-Station Turret & a Clunky Turret-Indexing Mechanism Just Bolted-On to its Side, and called it the T-SAF30.
Little or No Parts & Service Available. These are Junk Machines. Avoid Them!
FC75/30. Strippit then took the T-SAF30, had a GE 1050 CNC Control & Servo-Drives Bolted-On, and it was called the FC75/30. These are Automated Junk! Little or No Parts & Service Available! Avoid them!
Note, a Good Replacement for T-SAF30 & FC75/30 Machines are FC750 or Fanuc FC1000R Machines.
FC1250/45. Big Solid 45 Ton Heavy-Duty Machine, but is a very old design that is hard to work on, Very Difficult to Move & Install, and Repair Parts are becoming Scarce. Avoid, unless you Must have its features, which are Big Tables (50"x 72"), a 5" Tool-Station, and it can Punch 3/8" Material up to 45 Tons.
The 1970's --- Some Good NC "A-Control" Machines that We, Machine Technologies, Still Support.
But Lets Get-Real Here!!! If you are Buying, Buy a Newer CNC-Machine that can be Better Supported with
More Reliability, Better Parts & Service Availability, & Newer Control & Machine Features!!!
FC1000/1 The Machine that helped Catapult Strippit Co. to the Leader in Punching Industry. It was Fast, as X & Y Axis Moved at 2000 Inches-Per-Minute, and could easily Punch 180+ Hits-Per-Minute. First Machine with Contour-Nibbling which allowed Machine to Nibble-Out Large Holes & Curves of Any Size. A 2-Piece (Table & Frame Assemblies) Machine with a 20-Station Bi-Directional Turret that took Shortest-Path to next Tool-Station. 30-Ton Punching Force. It used Stand-Alone NC (not CNC) Control off to Left Side of Machine. Houdaille "30S3", "HC", and "A" NC Controls were used, with "A-Control" being Last & Best.
These Machines are Stamped "FC1000" on I.D. Plate, but I call them FC1000/1 to differentiate from later FC1000/2 & FC1000/3 Machines. FC1000/1 Machines were built 1975 to 1978. In early 1979, Machine was Updated with New HECC80 CNC Control, and Machine became FC1000/2 Model. Some Late "A-Control" FC1000/1 Machines were Stamped FC1000/2, and some Early HECC80-Control FC1000/2 Machines were Stamped FC1000. Many were "Mis-Stamped", be sure what Machine & Control you have!